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5 Grand
True Guardian of the Old School - A Godfather
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 Posted - 05/20/2005 : 09:02:45 AM
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Well, was he a Hip Hop Pioneer or a Disco DJ that made rap records?
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Beagle.808
True Guardian of the Old School - A Godfather
United Kingdom
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Posted - 05/20/2005 : 09:33:01 AM
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| I'm not sure - I know little of him in the early days. But I DO know he was diabolical by the mid-80's, and apparently f*cked everyone off at UK Fresh '86, by having a diva-like ego and attitude of self-importance! (although 'Amityville' was quite amusing). |
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Saf45King
Professor of Old School Information
United Kingdom
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Posted - 05/20/2005 : 09:45:40 AM
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He apparently tussled with Grandmaster Flash at UK Fresh after telling Flash that - as he was going on after him - it meant he was better that him. This was all too much for Flash's kingsize ego and he replied with a left hook.
The two of them had to be separated after that -
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Leroy31
Professor of Old School Information
USA
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Posted - 05/20/2005 : 11:03:05 AM
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| Does anybody have the bio of starski? I need that to make a competent decision. |
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mr ed
True Guardian of the Old School - A Godfather
United Kingdom
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Posted - 05/20/2005 : 12:09:31 PM
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here's a couple of records he made:
land of hits orchestra - gangster rock (he rapped)
little starksy - dancin party people (was this him)
Positive life (1980)
you gotta believe / live at the fever
do the right thing / live at the fever ii
amityville
house rocker 12"
house rocker LP (feat. HOUSE ROCKER, BABY TELL ME, POSITIVE LIFE (86), AMITYVILLE, SATURDAY NIGHT, DO WHATCHA GOTTA DO, 8th WONDER)
made a cut as part of an old school reunion crew called DA VETERANZ in the 90s... |
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5 Grand
True Guardian of the Old School - A Godfather
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Posted - 05/20/2005 : 12:20:54 PM
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Yeah, I just heard Live at the Fever part 1 for the first time a few weeks ago. But I remember "Do the Right Thing". From my recollection I went to New Jersey in the summer of 84 and they were playing
Fast Life - Jeckyl and Hyde
Can You Feel It- Fat Boys
Request Line - Rockmaster Scott
Do the Right Thing - Lovebug Starski
And to this day, those 4 songs always sound alike to me. If I was DJing, I'd probably mix those 4 songs together. |
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Dutchman
Professor of Old School Information
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Posted - 05/20/2005 : 12:23:55 PM
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I think he was a bit of both.
He was very much inspired by dj hollywood, but he just to play more hiphop songs and that's why he was also popular in the hiphop curcuit.
He Also made "Fight Rap" in 1985 for the "Rappin" soundtrack.
I don't think "Gangster rock" was by lovebug. I think it was Little Starski, and i don't think he's the same as lovebug and he also isn't busy bee. His voice sound not the same.
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mr ed
True Guardian of the Old School - A Godfather
United Kingdom
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Posted - 05/20/2005 : 12:26:39 PM
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yeah, this always through me DUTCH.... havent listened to GANGSTER ROCK for a while but I'm sure that's the LOVEBUG... you're right about the DANCIN PARTY PEOPLE guy though.... never been sure... Just certain it wasnt Busy bee....
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Leroy31
Professor of Old School Information
USA
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Posted - 05/20/2005 : 12:47:41 PM
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| Anybody got a MP3 with those songs on it? |
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MRWIGGLESrsc
Full Old School Member
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Posted - 05/20/2005 : 2:01:35 PM
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from my understanding he also coined the PHRAZE HIP HOP as far as in the HIP HOP comunity (the words existed before the culture through radio disc jockeys)
also he inspired BUZY B to use the name STARSKI as well.
love bug starski
buzy b starski
he was rerspected in the hood as well as in the clubs
and he was also concidered one of the best party rockin DJ's who can rock the turntables and the mic at the same time
peace
wigz |
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MRWIGGLESrsc
Full Old School Member
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Posted - 05/20/2005 : 2:07:07 PM
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for the record
not all DJ's scratched and cut
allot of HIP HOP DJ's did blends, and mixes, and were still respected, and a reall good DJ back in the days were PARTY ROCKERS
you had peeps like CHASE who was especialy good for keep the beat stady for MC's to rock to, which was another respected skill
thats why allot of crews had different DJ's
each one specialized in different aspects of DJin
in the crew i was in
FASCINATIN FORCE MC'S
we had three DJ's
-WILL= he had the ill beats cause he workd at down stairs records so he was like our lil BAM...lol
-NERO= he can cut fast, scratch, and also can play calypso, regae, breaks, disco, ect.. he was a party rocker
EDDIE ED= he was our speed demon, this brotha was FAST!! and RAW
haha
any ways
peace
wigz |
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kooldjnez
Professor of Old School Information
USA
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Posted - 05/20/2005 : 5:18:50 PM
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i thought i read a story on this site about starski not to long ago,
he said that graf wasn't a part of hiphop and who ever thinks so is crazy. |
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DjReadyRed
True Guardian of the Old School - A Godfather
USA
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Posted - 05/20/2005 : 6:28:44 PM
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Originally posted by MRWIGGLESrsc
for the record
not all DJ's scratched and cut
allot of HIP HOP DJ's did blends, and mixes, and were still respected, and a reall good DJ back in the days were PARTY ROCKERS
you had peeps like CHASE who was especialy good for keep the beat stady for MC's to rock to, which was another respected skill
thats why allot of crews had different DJ's
each one specialized in different aspects of DJin
in the crew i was in
FASCINATIN FORCE MC'S
we had three DJ's
-WILL= he had the ill beats cause he workd at down stairs records so he was like our lil BAM...lol
-NERO= he can cut fast, scratch, and also can play calypso, regae, breaks, disco, ect.. he was a party rocker
EDDIE ED= he was our speed demon, this brotha was FAST!! and RAW
haha
any ways
peace
wigz
Thats right Mr. Wiggles rsc...
Yo back in the day when I got into spinning I went the club dj thing trying to be like Shep Pettibone or Johnathan Fearing dj just real smooth blends all nite!! So being a hip hop dj now I'm glad that I can blend and still cut up when I have to but as far as rocking all nite I do a little of both! and rock the party!!!
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You shoulda seen me rock
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MRWIGGLESrsc
Full Old School Member
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Posted - 05/20/2005 : 7:12:51 PM
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graff not part of HIP HOP?
FAMOUS HIP HOP PIONEERS THAT WERE ALSO WRITERS
HERC
BAM
ROCK STEADY
CAZ
KRS
ZULUS
DEZ (now known as DK KAY SLAY)
ect...the list goes on...
and who designed allot of the flyers for these HIP HOP jams?
PHASE 2 was a writer!
and he was'nt the only writer doing flyers
CRASH
DAZE
KEL
ect..
graff has been a part of street life in the BRONX since before HERC started ROCKIN
what happened was this
there was alwasy writers, of all colors and nationalities
and each ethnic group listened to there own music, but for the most part
every black and latino was always into heavy rock (the gangstas), soul, r&b, Salsa, ect..
this was all in the late 60's early 70's
but towards the late 70's, the black and latino graff subculture was merging with What was then known as just ROCKIN, OR JAMS, (NO REAL NAME FOR THE CULTURE YET)
but it was in the early 80's with the movie WILD STYLE, and the documentary STYLE WARS, and of course the famous ROXY, that really solidified the elements of what BAM coined as HIP HOP.
it is true that allot of the white kids were not really into what we call HIP HOP today, there were a few though
but once the movie Wild Style came out, and the ROXY opened up, it also opened upo the doors to our white GRAFF BROTHERS like FUTURA, MIN, ZEPHYR and many others who had incredible street credability and fit right into the ROXY scene, and in my opinon they were all HIP HOP..
peace
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MRWIGGLESrsc
Full Old School Member
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Posted - 05/20/2005 : 7:15:51 PM
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i have to say this though
till this day there are still tons of white writers who will say that they were never into HIP HOP
MPC (CAP's crew) were really into HEAVY ROCK
and that is true
SEEN UA was down with like DOO WOP and 60's classics like that
peace
wigz |
MR WIGGLES
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kooldjnez
Professor of Old School Information
USA
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Posted - 05/20/2005 : 7:58:34 PM
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| oh, no doubt about the graf hiphop connect!but when i read that article about starski my mouth dropped!i couldn't belive he said that sheeit! |
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DJ YODA
Professor of Old School Information
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Posted - 05/20/2005 : 7:58:34 PM
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| PEACE LOVEBUG IS DEFINATELY HIP-HOP HE WAS IN THE STREETS BUT HE ALSO HAD THE CLUB SCENE ON LOCK. HE WOULD DO A BLOCK PARTY IN DAY WITH HOLLYWOOD THEN THEY WPOULD TAKE IT TO THE CLUBS. BUT YOU MUST REMEMBER STARSKI WAS AN EX BLACK SPADE WITH AFRIKA BAMBAATAA SO HE HAD A STREET REP. AS FAR AS THE CLUB STUFF WAS CONCERNED HE WAS OUR ONLY REAL LINK TO THAT STUFF CAUSE BACK THEN MOST OF US DID NOT GO TO CLUBS CAUSE THEY WERE ON SOME JIGGY STUFF. YOU HAD TO HAVE ON SHOES AND NICE GEAR AND ALL THAT, IF YOU STARTED B-BOYING THEY WOULD DIS YOU. SAY THINGS LIKE GET OUTTA HERE WITH ALL THAT SPINNING ON YOUR HEAD CRAP. LATER ON WE HAD OUR OWN PLACES TO PLAY LIKE THE HEVALO, STARDUST BALLROOM, THE RENNY,HOTEL DIPLOMAT, T-CONNECTION JUST TO NAME A FEW. |
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